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As a writer and actress, I blatantly reject the so-called “celebrity culture,” which was especially over the top by the media during this past week. As a rebel and stickler for fairness, I believe that talent is talent, and should be valued on its own merit, not because it is attached to a “name.” A so-called “name actor” can be just as talented as one the industry refuses to recognize, and worship of people almost as gods is just plain unhealthy. In that context, I was inspired to write about the similar phenomenon taking place in our solar system.

 

Pluto Speaks Out: Scorned Planet Defiant about Status

 

Recently demoted by Earth’s International Astronomical Union, Pluto has endured three tough years, not just among Earth’s humans but in the solar system as a whole, facing ridicule and discrimination from other solar system bodies for defiantly clinging to its planet status. In an exclusive interview for this web site, Pluto speaks out about planetary discrimination, and solar system hierarchies, revealing the inner workings of a system riddled with patronage, favoritism, and jockeying for position.

 

Interviewer: Pluto, I’m going to start out being blunt. After all, facts are facts. The solar system has seven moons larger than you. Another Kuiper Belt Object, Eris, is bigger than you are, and at least two others are pretty much your size. How then can you justify putting yourself in the same category as the eight Big Guys?

 

Pluto: The problem here is that you’re arbitrarily choosing size as somehow being of more value than a whole host of other criteria. Size isn’t everything. I say, look at shape. I’ve achieved hydrostatic equilibrium. I’m shaped by my own gravity. That’s what puts me in the same category as your so-called “Big Guys.”

 

Interviewer: Honestly, Pluto, how many moons of other solar system planets are also in hydrostatic equilibrium? They don’t insist on being called planets. They accept that they’re not in the inner circle. They understand that they’re just not in the big leagues.

 

Pluto: We’ve got a couple of misconceptions here. First of all, I never denied them the status of planet. In fact, in my view, if they’re in hydrostatic equilibrium, they’re planets too. For some reason, maybe their own low self-esteem, they feel the need to center their lives around other planets instead of maintaining their own orbits.

 

Interviewer: So you have no problem with calling these moons planets.

 

Pluto: Of course not. I just feel bad that they don’t think enough of themselves to recognize that they can orbit the Sun directly. They don’t have to attach themselves to the so-called giants to be important. Unfortunately, they’re buying into the propaganda that they’re somehow inferior and will get nowhere unless they faun all over the giants.

 

Interviewer: And Eris and those other round Kuiper Belt Objects? They’re planets too?

 

Pluto: Of course. And they’ll tell you that themselves. It’s only these so-called Big Guys who are spreading the lie that if you’re not one of their “Big Eight,” you’re not a planet, and that the best you can do is hang onto their coattails. Here in the Kuiper Belt, we laugh at their self-importance.

 

Interviewer: But realistically, you can’t say you have the same degree of influence as the giants. Jupiter regularly intercepts comets, stopping them from impacting other planets, including Earth. What do you do that is comparable?

 

Pluto: First of all, you’re assuming Earth is somehow more deserving of protection than any of the rest of us. Not to mention, what’s wrong with comets? They hang out with me here in the ‘hood all the time. If they want to take a trip into the inner solar system and see what it’s like near the Sun, why should they be prohibited from doing that? We don’t tell Mercury, Venus, Earth, or Mars not to get near the Sun. This is just the same old size discrimination again. That or special favoritism to Earth because it’s directly related to humans.

 

And you know what? Most comets who take that trip, once they get close to the Sun, they realize it’s hot as hell over there, and they come racing back into the outer solar system very happy to get home. Some of them come back broken and damaged from all that heat, and once they’re back, they choose to live here in the ‘hood, what those Big Guys ridicule as the boondocks.

 

Interviewer: So comets should be allowed to roam freely all over the solar system.

 

Pluto: Of course. Why should there be one set of rules for the Big Guys and another set of rules for the little guys? That’s a blatant double standard.

 

Interviewer: Yet every day comets leave your ‘hood trying to get closer to the Sun. Thousands of asteroids compete just get closest to Jupiter or Saturn. For every one that makes it, thousands don’t. You don’t have asteroids clamoring to orbit you. The overwhelming majority want to be part of the Big Guys’ kingdoms, even if it means just being a speck in their ring systems.

 

Pluto: You see; that’s where their value systems are all screwed up. Why make your whole life revolve around another planet when you can be one yourself, when you can have your own orbit? Okay, I’m small, but I orbit the Sun directly. They only live vicariously through attaching themselves to the giant planets. Why would I want to orbit another planet when I can have an orbit of my own? Yes, it’s kind of different, but you know, I like it, and I have complete freedom to do what I want.

 

And you know, having moons isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. And I say this as someone who has three moons myself. The whole planet-moon thing is part of the hierarchical mentality that is the root of most problems here in the solar system. Why can’t we all be planets? In fact, Charon and I are unique in that we co-orbit one another. Ours is an orbit of equals. I love Charon, and I don’t feel the need to make myself superior.

 

Interviewer: You do have Nix and Hydra orbiting you though.

 

Pluto: Because they choose to. They happen to like our different way of doing things. And Charon and I are fine with that. If they ever want to go off on their own and be their own planets, we’ll wish them well. We won’t try to keep them in our shadows.

 

And, you’ve actually made another good point. Charon and I have a system of four. Mercury and Venus have no moons at all. Mars has two little asteroid moons who were rejected by Jupiter. Why should they be planets and Charon and I be some sort of second-class citizens?

 

Interviewer: You don’t clear your orbit of other Kuiper Belt Objects, and those planets do have clear orbits.

 

Pluto: Only because they were born in an advantaged location. Put them out here in the Kuiper Belt, and they wouldn’t clear anything.

 

Interviewer: Many astronomers consider you most like Triton, a moon of Neptune. Why should you be given the coveted title of planet, yet the larger Triton just be a moon?

 

Pluto: Again with this size issue. We keep coming back to that. Look, I know Triton, and once upon a time, he was a planet just like me, with his own orbit—until Neptune lured him in with all this rhetoric about how popular he’d be if he were associated with a giant planet. Unfortunately, Triton bought into this propaganda, against my advice by the way. And you know what? It’s all going to end in tragedy. His orbit around Neptune is unstable. One day, he’s going to crash into his big blue idol and completely self-destruct. Of course, Neptune never told him that in advance. All because Triton chose to give up his individuality and worship one of the so-called Big Guys. I, on the other hand, will still be here when he’s long gone.

 

Interviewer: So you really believe you’re as important to the solar system as giants like Jupiter and Saturn?

 

Pluto: Yes I do. And I’ll tell you something else they don’t want you to know. Those two, especially Jupiter, really wanted to be suns, but they just couldn’t do it. Hell, Jupiter tried and tried but couldn’t even fuse deuterium, much less hydrogen. These guys are wanna bes. That’s why they’ve got their own little solar systems going. And Uranus and Neptune just copied them. They’ve collected all those moons because they want to act like suns, but deep down, they know they’re not. And so they’re compensating. It’s the same thing with the rings. Saturn started the whole thing as one big show of ostentation. Then the other three gas giants copied him. Oh, they love to brag about how objects all over the solar system would kill just to be a tiny moonlet in their rings. So egotistic, so self-important. And they don’t even have surfaces. You can’t stand on them or land a rover on them, but you can do both of those with me.

 

Interviewer: Then what about Ceres and Vesta? They’re round, but they don’t mind being considered asteroids.

 

Pluto: Really? Did you ever ask them what they think? Or did you just take Jupiter’s word for it? Nobody even bothered to consult Ceres, Vesta, and a couple of others in that area who happen to be round. No, it’s just, you’re in the asteroid belt, so you’re automatically no better than any little rock floating around out there. Don’t you humans have words for that kind of discrimination on your planet?

 

Interviewer: I think we’ve pretty much covered everything. It’s clear you’re sticking to your guns on this one.

 

Pluto: You bet I am. We’re talking about my identity, who I am. And not just my identity, but the identity of every small object in the solar system, especially those of us who have worked hard to attain hydrostatic equilibrium. If it’s good enough for Jupiter, it’s good enough for all of us. I’m not just going to sit here in the Kuiper Belt and let these Big Guys call their reality the only reality. No, I’ve already started mobilizing the little guys here in the Kuiper Belt who are in the same spherical shape as Jupiter. And the asteroid belt is next. Then the Oort Cloud. Some of those over-inflated gas giant egos may start to see their moons suddenly floating away and establishing their own orbits as planets. There is a revolution underway in the solar system, and it starts here.

 

You know, if they hadn’t messed with me, I might have just left things the way they are and been content to do my own thing. But the humans and these big planets that follow their every dictate made a huge mistake. They picked a fight with me, so now they’re getting what they deserve. The new rallying cry among the solar system’s underdogs is, “let a thousand planets bloom!” And mark my words, they will.

 

 

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[User Picture]From: [info]polaris93
2009-07-11 08:08 pm (UTC)

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ROFL! - You know, this entry mirrors a lot of what's going on in American politics, such as all the abuse that Sarah Palin has taken from the mainstream media. The MSM seem to like badgering people who've never done them any harm and might be good for this country -- or just anyone they can get an opportunity to badger, such as those poor Hollywood starlets such as Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. I swear that the reason so many of those young women self-destruct any more is due to that constant, endless public exposure of even their most private moments and aspects of their lives, and the abuse the tabloids heap on them. Hollywood is a train wreck that keeps happening and happening and happening, and the media should take a lot of the blame for that. And the media act the same way toward Pluto and other KBOs, too. Weird. -- You have to wonder how the media and Mike Brown will treat any Pluto-sized objects orbiting other stars we might discover in the future. I realize we probably can't do that with a telescope of any size for even the nearest stars, but still.
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-07-11 08:15 pm (UTC)

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I in principle object to the concept of "starlets." The media pick and choose whom they want to glorify and invent reasons for doing so while at the same time completely ignoring other performers with equal or better talent. I've been as hurt by the media's denial of my talent, probably more so, than Britney has ever been hurt by their publicity. Paris has done NOTHING worthy of fame and should be completely ignored by the media. The point is, the "star system" is toxic and has to go. In the same way that Pluto is no less worthy of planet status than Jupiter, one talented performer is no less worthy of recognition than another equally talented performer. The media should spend more time seeking out and being open to other talent besides the few they've chosen to obsess over.
[User Picture]From: [info]polaris93
2009-07-11 08:21 pm (UTC)

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You're right. -- I called them "starlets" because one has to call them something, and that was the least objectionable epithet I could come up with at the moment. No, I agree with you completely. And Paris Hilton is a spoiled rotten eternal brat who might have turned out one hell of a lot better if she'd grown up on a farm. But the media and Hollywood have ruined a great many young men and women, who might have led far saner lives without that sort of attention and expectations, far from the bright lights, perhaps doing some truly productive work in their lives. Instead, you get kids ruining themselves with drugs, killing themselves by accident or on purpose due to reckless behavior, and generally setting very bad examples for the nation's young people. Anyway, the media have this "If it bleeds, it leads" attitude, because of which they will pick sides on all issues guaranteed to generate the most controversy, because that's how the sell newspapers and magazines, and please their sponsors. Which may be the reason many of them are steadily losing circulation and revenues. Eventually some media organs may wake up and get real in order to survive, at which point maybe some of this insanity will end.
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-07-11 09:29 pm (UTC)

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The same way Alan Stern said he was "embarrassed for astronomy" after the infamous IAU decision, I as a writer am embarrassed for journalism by what the media has become. Most of what they call news is entertainment, and most of that is pretty much a circus. That is why most of the American public knows all of the latest gossip about these non-talents but little about what is really going on in the world. The media also likes to pick favorites, build them up, and then tear them down. And the ones they don't pick or refuse to see become equally messed up because of this. I would like to see entertainment out of "hard news" whether in broadcast or print. Entertainment should be a separate section, and entertainment reporters would do better to attend plays and films in festivals, works that they now completely ignore. Then they would be covering real art (drama) instead of running around stalking people.

I refer to the people you mentioned as "so-called personalities" or "so called stars" to indicate the conviction that they are not real stars but erroneously labeled so. I also find it interesting that I personally get more attention for my advocacy about Pluto than I do for my acting when I've made much more of an effort over time as an actress, and I am not a professional astronomer!

The best thing to do is boycott the circus media by not watching their shows and not buying their magazines and newspapers as long as they pass of gossip as news. There is always the Internet for better news sources.

Pluto is my celebrity. I collect Pluto memorabilia in the form of books, T-shirts, DVDs, music, etc. I would love to see the day when the media does non-stop coverage of Pluto, and Hollywood types can't even get a word or photo in edgewise!
[User Picture]From: [info]polaris93
2009-07-11 09:42 pm (UTC)

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You're right on all counts. And I believe the day is coming when Hollywood will be a total nonentity, and Pluto will gain the respect he deserves, from the media, the public, and astronomers all over the world. -- I don't even watch TV in any form, though I do use my TV as a DVD monitor. I get the news from the Internet, and most of it is from dependable news sources that cover important news, not the drivel that usually passes for news with services such as AOL. (And don't even get me started about media coverage of Michael Jackson's funeral -- I wish his family well, but the media can go to hell for trying to distract us from such trivialities as what North Korea's up to and the deal Obama just cut with Medvedev of Russia!) I love Hades and Persephone, and also Eris, and I'm wondering when Nemesis is going to make her prescene known as she goes after those who committed the hubris of trying to "demote" the Gods of the KBOs . . .
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-07-11 10:48 pm (UTC)

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If you love the Hades/Persephone myth, you might be interested in reading my play. It's not published as of yet, but it is copyrighted. You might not like the fact that I have Eris as the villain/antagonist who sets out to one-up Pluto. However, at the end, they do reconcile, and she is redeemed as a character. If you would like to read it, I can send you the PDF. But beware, it's long--107 pages! Let me know!
[User Picture]From: [info]polaris93
2009-07-11 10:54 pm (UTC)

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I'd love to read it! :-) My email address is polaris93@aol.com.
From: [info]chatoyantorange
2009-07-23 09:08 pm (UTC)

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I'd like to see it too. Send it to mahtezcatpoc@yahoo.com, if you would.
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-07-23 11:55 pm (UTC)

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Okay, will do. Let me know if you choose to share it with anyone else. Even though it's copyrighted, I want to make sure it doesn't get spread via the Internet and then picked up by some stranger and published in his/her name.
From: [info]chatoyantorange
2009-07-24 04:21 pm (UTC)

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I will.

Thanks.
From: (Anonymous)
2009-07-22 01:08 am (UTC)

Great interview(story)

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Hi there,
I found your blog trough your comment on Fora.tv (Neil deGrasse Tyson on pluto etc).

I loved your Pluto interview here, especially the part where Saturn and Jupiter wanted to be suns but couldn't pull it off. It's hilarious. I'm going to show this to a couple of friends, i know they will love it! I see(in the way you write) that your a writer.

Also, the size issue is a great one, here in Belgium(where I'm from) that is a big too!

I really hope you write that book you said in your Fora comment will be written in this style.
Do you have your title allready or an isbn so i could check it out?
My email is: toby.elliot.newt@gmail.com(please don't abuse it)

Keep up your good work!
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-07-22 04:33 am (UTC)

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Thank you! Feel free to share this with your friends. I wonder how Neil deGrasse Tyson would feel if he knew that his interview led you to my pro-Pluto site! I actually met him at a forum on planet definition in NYC, and he was very friendly to me in spite of our disagreement on this issue.

I am curious as to how people in Belgium feel about the IAU demotion of Pluto. Have you found people who do not accept it? From communication with people around the world, I know that Tyson is wrong in claiming that objection to the demotion is solely an American phenomenon.

I admit that I have not yet gotten started on my book, so I don't have an ISBN number or any web sites connected to it. It's encouraging to hear that someone is interested in reading it. My tentative title is "The Little Planet that Would Not Die," and I do really need to get moving on this. I can't say the whole book will be written as an interview with Pluto, but I will consider your suggestion for at least some of it. This entry was actually unplanned and written on a whim in response to an argument I had with some friends about the "celebrity" issue.

Thanks for your email address. What would constitute abusing it? I ask just so I don't inadvertently do that. Generally, I do not forward the jokes and anecdotes people circulate to many, if that is what you mean.
[User Picture]From: [info]suitti
2009-07-30 12:41 am (UTC)

Stars

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I've not gone out to get another degree, though i might. I have started acting, of sorts. A bunch of us from the local astronomy club have started producing "Astronomy For Everyone", broadcast on local cable TV. Our third half hour episode has just started airing. I'm in the first two. The first is available at:

http://www.astronomyforeveryone.org/

Our goal is outreach. So it starts out very basic.

It appears that every month, we get another local cable station to pick us up. To them, it should be clear that our content is 1) interesting, and 2) free. My own personal goal is to become so much of a star that the IAU will vote, and kick me out of the "star club". That's when i'd really be sure i've made it.

I'd be totally cool with 24 or 48 planets in our system. We could make up a new mnemonic. I'm not fond of the current one: My Very Energetic Mother Just Served Us... Nothing.
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-07-30 03:37 am (UTC)

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From where do you broadcast? I would love to be a part of this. In March 2008, I did a radio interview on the Centenary College radio station for the program "Contours," headed by a fellow member of my astronomy club. The subject was--you guessed--Pluto! Of course, I would be happy to record episodes on other aspects of astronomy, if that is feasible.

You're right on about having no problem with 24 or 48 planets. If that is the reality, then people will just have to get used to it. Making the number of planets artificially small just for memorization purposes has no real merit.

I wouldn't even call the mnemonic you cited above as the "current" one or the "official" one. That is giving the IAU decision a credence and legitimacy it does not deserve. A better option would be to create a mnemonic for the 13 planets our solar system currently has if we use the definition of planet as any non-self-luminous spheroidal body orbiting a star. Those planets are Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Haumea, Makemake, and Eris.
[User Picture]From: [info]suitti
2009-08-02 02:08 am (UTC)

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We record in Wyandotte, Mi. The town has a municipal studio, and produces several shows for public access. We're allowed to say pretty much anything we want, and use the studio for free, as long as we don't advertise. You might think that this is no big deal - but it's fairly difficult to talk about "how to buy a telescope" with this restriction. So, everyone has their biases. And for me, the sweet spot is Orion's 10" dob with push-to computer. $700. Fits in the car. Sets up in 3 minutes (including 2 star alignment. Seldom needs collimation. What more could you want? (yes, yes - 2 inch eyepieces, solar filter, and so on - dwarfing the initial investment). But i digress.

The show is shot, then in a week or so, we do post production, adding graphics, and so on. We have the idea to do 3 nine minute segments with a couple Public Service Announcements tossed in. But, we're flexible.

I am hoping that we'll continue having a variety of guests. We're currently working on the October episode. I've got a dozen locals i want to interview. One of the clubs i belong to has prepared talks at both monthly meetings. Twenty four totally awesome talks a year. I only get a slot about once a year. Anyway, there's no shortage of material.

I know. There are a zillion planet names mnemonics. But the one i mentioned is a minor modification of one of the more popular ones that had Pluto. And "nothing" is a real let down from "nine pizzas".
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-08-02 05:43 am (UTC)

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This sounds interesting, but you're quite far from New Jersey, where I live. I'll make sure to visit the site.

I wish I could afford any decent telescope, let alone one for $700! But I do have very good astronomical binoculars.

What would really be interesting is for someone to come up with a mnemonic for the 13 planets I listed above. Of course, if you add Vesta, Charon, and Sedna, it gets even trickier!
[User Picture]From: [info]suitti
2009-08-03 02:59 am (UTC)

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I thought i'd done this mnemonic exercise. But i can't find it.

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Haumea, Makemake, and Eris.

My Very Energetic Mother Could Just Serve Us Nine Pizzas, How Many Easily?

And if Charon is a planet, then the Moon is too:

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Moon, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Charon, Haumea, Makemake, and Eris.

Merciful Vegetable Eating Mothers Make Celery Judiciously Salty, Urban Neighbors Plainly Choose Haddock Matured Erroneously.

OK, it doesn't make much sense. In fact, it seems to smell bad. But each word doesn't just start with the same first letter, but the same first two letters.

I'm not ready to add Vesta until the Dawn mission orbits it and we get a good close look. I suspect it's not in hydrostatic equilibrium. Why not? Because there are so many bits of Vesta on Earth. And, some show layering. That is, we have bits from pretty deep into Vesta.

The low end of decent telescopes is, IMO, about $220. The Orion 4.5" Skyquest, for example.

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=09804
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-08-03 03:08 am (UTC)

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Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. What I've been warned against are the low cost telescopes sold in toystores, which many in my astronomy club describe as "toys."

Your mnemonics are very creative! It's interesting how many mnemonics end up being about food!

For Vesta, we need to wait only until 2011 for the Dawn data. I've talked with two very knowledgable Vesta lovers, one a professional astronomer and the other an amateur who likely is more well versed than most professionals, and both believe that by virtue of its somewhat spherical shape, Vesta is in hydrostatic equilibrium. Dawn should answer a lot of critical questions.
From: (Anonymous)
2009-08-02 03:28 am (UTC)

Mnemonics

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The funny thing is, back in the 1970s, when I taught myself about the nine then-known planets from a set of 1955 World Book Encyclopedias, I didn't need a mnemonic. I just memorized the planets. With Ceres, Haumea, Makemake and Eris added to the list, I've just memorized them as well. It seems easier than trying to come up with constantly changing mnemonics as new bodies are added to the list -- and not just at the end of the list, either.

P.S. I'm inclined to view Pluto/Charon as a double planet, so my own personal list would have 14 at present count.

P.P.S. I've greatly enjoyed reading your blog and the various comments you've posted around the web! Reading about Pluto's "defiance" made me laugh at loud.

Bob Shepard of Denver

Odd thought for the day: We shouldn't anthropomorphize the planets. They don't like that.
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-08-02 05:40 am (UTC)

Re: Mnemonics

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Hi, Bob,

I never learned a mnemonic either. Like you, I just learned the names of the planets. I don't know what the big deal about the mnemonic is, yet for a lot of people, it's the only thing they know about the solar system.

Including Charon is a good idea since Pluto/Charon is a binary system, with the barycenter between both bodies rather than within Pluto. Interestingly, it is the solar system's only binary planet.

Thank you for reading my blog and following my online comments. It seems I've become somewhat known in the astronomy blogosphere!

I wouldn't blame the planets if they didn't want to be anthropomorphized. Humans are not exactly stellar examples of intelligent life! Still, this was fun to write, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
From: (Anonymous)
2009-08-07 10:08 am (UTC)

Eris? IAU rules violated

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The point you hasn't raised yet, that the name "Eris" was given to this body violating the rules of the IAU as well. The privilege/bribe to name it given to a discoverer, in exchange that he would support Pluto's demotion. And more, there are circles, where there is a comet Eris (MPC 136199) and the planet Proserpina/Persephone/Kora (MPC 136199).
[User Picture]From: [info]laurele
2009-08-07 04:22 pm (UTC)

Re: Eris? IAU rules violated

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Very interesting. I was not aware of the arrangement that Brown be allowed to name the planet in exchange for supporting Pluto's demotion. This would explain a lot, especially the way Brown changed his mind from his initial view that these objects are planets. Do you have any articles/references/blogs/sources that discuss this deal? I would love to read any and all of them.
From: (Anonymous)
2009-08-13 07:29 pm (UTC)

Re: Eris? IAU rules violated

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Well- if that is true...what a shame! I thought science was about facts, and now I find out it's about who's got the best "offer."

-Siobhan